Vice President Mike Pence on Sunday, June 28, refused to say the words “Black lives matter” and asserted that the movement has the political agenda of the radical left that supports calls for violence and would defund the police.

“I cherish the progress that we have made toward a more perfect union for African Americans throughout our history. And I’ve aspired throughout my career to be a part of that ongoing work. It’s really a hard issue for me,” Pence told CBS’s “Face the Nation” when was asked if he would say “Black lives matter.”

“And as a pro-life American, I also believe that all life matters, born and unborn. But what I see in the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement is a political agenda of the radical left that would defund the police, that would tear down monuments, that would press a radical left agenda and support calls for the kind of violence that has beset the very communities that they say that they’re advocating for,” he continued.

Pence said that he has met with Africa-American leaders around the country and they told him that they want law and order and peace in the streets.

Pence’s comments come after Black Lives Matter of New York leader Hawk Newsome on Wednesday, warned that if the United States “doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it.”

Newsome on Sunday said that both parties have failed black people in the country and called for defunding police.

“Black people do not trust politicians, they don’t trust Democrats. They don’t trust Republicans.” Newsome told “Fox News Sunday“. “They’re desperate, they’re poor, they’re undereducated, and they are left out to dry by this American system of government.”

Pence previously was pressed to say those words in another interview. He instead said, “All lives matter in a very real sense,” adding that the Trump administration is supporting law enforcement and will not defund the police. 

Pence said the Trump administration is “absolutely determined to improve the lives of our African American citizens with more job opportunities, more educational opportunities, and this administration will remain committed to doing what we’ve been doing all along.”

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